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Hello Larry - thanks for posting your comment.

Firstly, it is clear that we both disagree on the Biblical 'truthfulness' about "Once Saved Always Saved" (OSAS). I have proven OSAS to be false in several of my videos. Maybe you might care to view one or more of them and offer some comments in response to share your thoughts with me?

The videos are:

— Critique of Ken Yates Claims About Final Salvation - https://youtu.be/Il-cI0ksX0k

— Scriptural Rebuttal of Dr Gene Kim's statements about OSAS - https://youtu.be/SHXGvxROznU

— Are Robert Breaker's claims about 23rd Sept and 'Once Saved Always Saved' Biblically correct? - https://youtu.be/EVkcaxmsHv0

Next, the article above spoke about the "Children of Abraham" throughout the ages, who have demonstrated before God that as "Abraham had WORKS" that pleased God (John 8:39), so they also have performed the "WORKS" God requires them to perform:

"Verily, verily, I say unto you, HE THAT BELIEVETH ON ME, THE WORKS THAT I DO SHALL HE DO ALSO; and GREATER WORKS THAN THESE SHALL HE DO; because I go unto my Father." (John 14:12)

"Yea, a man may say, Thou hast faith, and I have works: SHEW ME THY FAITH WITHOUT THY WORKS, AND I WILL SHEW THEE MY FAITH BY MY WORKS." (James 2:18)

"Know ye therefore that THEY WHICH ARE OF FAITH [that includes "works"], THE SAME ARE THE CHILDREN OF ABRAHAM." (Galatians 3:7)

Larry - I'm not trying to appear confrontational here. Christians should defend what they believe. Many refuse to discuss issues like this with me. In this, they prefer to remain silent and move on. This behaviour is what makes Jesus Christ angry with such people, as they demonstrate they have no regard for (Absolute) 'TRUTH' only their own church’s ‘truth’:

" I KNOW THY WORKS, that THOU ART NEITHER COLD [i.e. against what is said by speaking up and quoting scripture verses to support their claims] NOR HOT [indicating total agreement with the preacher]: I would thou wert COLD or HOT. 16 So then because thou art LUKEWARM [by preferring to remain silent and moving on], and NEITHER COLD NOR HOT, I WILL SPUE THEE [or thy name] out of my [Christ’s] mouth [as detestable on Judgment day – Rev 20:11-15]." (Revelation 3:16).

Finally, if you prefer to not engage with me regarding OSAS via the videos, maybe you may care to provide me with an answer to the following question?

The scripture verse stated by the Apostle Paul below says:

"But THEY [i.e. today's Christians?] HAVE NOT ALL OBEYED THE GOSPEL. For Esaias [Isaiah 53:1] saith, Lord, who hath believed our report?" (Romans 10:16 KJV)

Given that the scripture verses below plainly state that Salvation is:

"...by GRACE are ye SAVED THROUGH FAITH; and that not of yourselves: it is the [free] GIFT OF GOD: 9 NOT OF WORKS, lest any man should boast." (Ephesians 2:8-9)

The question here is that if Salvation is a "FREE GIFT" as stated above and in Romans 5:15, 16 and 18, what is the situation the Apostle is referring to in regards to "obeying the gospel"?

Finally, if Christians fail to "obey the gospel", does that indicate they have lost their Salvation?

Any comments you may have would be much appreciated, Larry.

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“If Christians fail to meet the above foundational requirements for entry into Heaven, how else can they be assured of Salvation?”

When you recognize the 3 parts of salvation you realize you are justified by GRACE [ unmerited favor ]. Justification is the first step, not the journey. Sanctification is the journey [ the Lord’s Highway ].

I was saved [ justified ]. I am being saved [ sanctified ]. I shall be saved [ like Jesus ].

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